Wildlife Conservation – The Attack on the Canadian Wolf | EXPOSED Conservation | EP 11

Wildlife Conservation – The Attack on the Canadian Wolf | EXPOSED Conservation | EP 11


My name is John E. Marriott, and this episode, we’re exposing you to the cruel and often horrific practice of killing wolves, using neck snares. I’m not going to lie this video is going to be really hard to watch. But I think it is important for you to view the suffering that these animals endure so you can truly understand what happens, when wild animals are caught in snares. We sincerly hope that this episode spurs you to demand change. Have you ever come across something so unexpected that it shook you to your very core? The people I am about to introduce you to have. In early January 2019, Craig and Tara unexpectedly discovered an active wolf trapline, while hiking along a trail in Kananaskis Country, and what they found, shocked them. I’ve been coming out here for thirty years to hike the valley, look for animals, take picutres. It’s serene, it’s beautiful, it’s not that busy, so we brought the dogs and came for a walk. Ideally the plan was to come here early, and see if we couldn’t: A. spot a pack of wolves, we did end up hearing them it was beautiful, I actually dropped to my knees. That was a first for me. It wasn’t too far into the trail the dogs went for a piece of meat, something. We were a couple kilometeres up the path when we came across a dead body, a carcass. It was skinned out, the head was cut off, the feet were cut off. We weren’t quite sure what it was. As we walked back towards the main path we came across two more animals. They had been skinned. One of them still had it’s head on, so it was clear that they were wolves. And shortly after that while we were investigating we started taking pictures, because it’s like somethings not right here. This doesn’t feel right. It might be legal, but it’s certainly not ethical. That’s when we started paying attention and realized we were probably on an active trapline. What Craig encountered was one of the most common types of traplines. A trapline, using neck snares to kill wolves, and other canids, like coyotes and foxes, for their fur. Trappers lay out big piles of meat in an enclosed forested area to attract predators, then saturate the area with wire snares. Predators come through the trees to get at the meat and if the trapper has chosen wisely, a wolf, coyote, bobcat, even a cougar Walks through the snare and the wire loop tightens around it’s neck or body. In most cases, the animal eventually chokes to death. But not always. The trapper returns to the snare, kills the animal if neccessary, skins it, and sells it’s fur for fash ion related clothing. As we got a few kilometers back down the path, we came across thirty or forty snares and three more wolves with their heads cut off, their feet cut off, and their skin ripped from their bodies. It turned the hike from let’s go look for wildlife and take pictures of the mountains into what the hell are we seeing here, what are we a part of and how far does this go as well as all of the dead carcasses there was bait. There was ribs, and muscle, and meat thrown about. It was, it really was a scene of carnage. We noticed a whole bunch of crows a little ways down the other way to the south. So we decided to follow, see what else we were going to
witness. We saw a bunch more snares in the bushes so I went in to have a peak and that’s when we encountered the live wolf. Then came the yells and the swearing and the get out, get out of here. And I didn’t really know what was going on. So I did, I got us out. And it wasn’t until he came out and it was pretty apparent that whatever was going on, was bad. His back paw was caught in a snare. The flesh was peeled back and ripped off his foot and he was struggling like crazy to get out of this trap. He wasn’t making any noise but when he popped up, he was 15 feet away from me. He was right there, I could smell him. There was nothing I could do you can’t go cut him free. It’s an apex predator that’s scared and hurt. I had to leave him in the woods for someone to come back and kill him and turn him into a jacket. When I found out that there was a live wolf and we needed to leave the site. I, I wasn’t okay with it then and I’m not okay with it now. It was really hard, to to walk away. Like you’re completely helpless And, sick, like just sick to my very core. I come out here to enjoy nature, and enjoy wildlife, and enjoy the precious resources that we all, get to share. One doesn’t have more right than the other I don’t feel and if there is more right, then there should also be more responsibility. I’ve hiked this area hundreds of times. That time was different. You know after encountering the live wolf literally on his death bed waiting to be killed for someone to look cool in a coat. It wasn’t a hike, it wasn’t fun anymore and I just wanted to go home. It’s something that get’s tough. You close your eyes and you can see it, I can see the look in his eyes I could smell him. That didn’t go away for days. We had an entirley differnt epsiode planned to kick off our 2019 season. But when Craig and Tara’s story came across our radar, we knew we had to act quickly and change our schedule. I visited the trapline on my own just days after first hearing from Craig. The live wolf was gone, red blood spatter in it’s place, where the trapper likely shot it. But I did find three dead wolves, nine coyote carcasses, and four red foxes all skinned, and left behind to rot. Perhaps surprisingly, what this trapper is doing on his trapline is totally legal and happens all across Canada, much more than you might think. In Alberta, a $40 trapping licenseallows trappers to kill as many wolves as they can,from October, to March. There are no limits. Let me repeat that. For $40, trappers can kill as many wolves, coyotes, and foxes, as they can snare. So why snares? Because they’re cheap. They’re light weight. They’re easy to use. And they can catch a wide variety of fur bearing animals. The problem is, the science shows that neck snares are incredibly inhumane, and rarely kill quickly. Neck snares have never been scientifically proven to kill animals humanely in less than 5 minutes. Which is the standard outline under the agreement on international humane trapping standards, that Canada signed in 1997. Neck snares actually aren’t even part of that agreement, because all relevant Canadian agencies, decided that snares were not commercial killing devices In part, because they can also be made at home. This excluded them from the agreement despite the fact that neck snares can be purchased commercially from many outdoor retailers and almost all trappers sell their fur, commercially. So how can neck snares NOT be considered commercial killing devices. Snares work on the premise that the wire tightens around the wolf’s neck as it struggles compressing the carodid arteries, and reducing bloodflow to the brain. However, it is extremely difficult to choke a wolf to death because of their incredibly strong neck muscles regardless of whether a manual killing snare, or a power killing snare is used. The science actually shows that snares aren’t even time effective in killing the much smaller red fox, let alone wolves or coyotes. Plus, many wolves get caught by the leg or foot and have to wait days or even weeks in agony with a wire embeded in their flesh before the trapper finally returns to kill them. Just as Craig’s wolf had to. How many wolves are killed in snares across the country each year? Thousands. In Alberta alone, just last year, trappers reported killing almost 700 wolves, and a staggering 46,120 coyotes. Many of these coyotes, are what line the hoods of Canada goose jackets. The culprit here is not the trapper. It’s the consumer that drives the demand for this product. If the consumer doesn’t want fur, the trappers don’t have the need to take fur. That fancy $800 coat that you’re wearing that’s real animal around the hood that was trapped, held, killed, beheaded, it’s feet were cut off and skin ripped from it’s body just so you could have a fur lined hood on your fancy winter coat. None of it has a purpose in 2019. None of it has a way of life aspect to how we do things. It’s purely fashion and it’s purely ego. And thousands of animals are killed cruelly each year in the name of fashion. It’s rough to know that having looked a wolf in the eye and knew that he was going to be a
coat. It’s rough to have experienced that. The content of this episode has been really difficult for us to share with you here on Exposed. But we sincerely hope that learning about cruel reality of how killing neck snares are used, on our wolves, and our coyotes, educates you, and spurs you into action to demand change. We need our trapping regulations updated, to ban killing neck snares. please join us in this fight, to help give our wildlife a
voice. Take action, by clicking on the link in the description. Please educate your freinds and family who might be considering buying a fur trimmed coat or any other fur product. The only way to stop this is by reducing the demand for fur. It’s up to all of us. Stay tuned for more episodes tackling this very controversial subject, in the coming year. Thanks for watching everyone, stay informed by subscribing to our Exposed channel.

100 thoughts on “Wildlife Conservation – The Attack on the Canadian Wolf | EXPOSED Conservation | EP 11

  1. Sir anything I can do? I don't earn money so I can't donate. But all I have is love, passion, my physical efforts, whatever little expertise I have with camera and readiness to do whatever is needed. Can you guide me how can put it to good use?

  2. Thank You John, it’s hard to watch but we must share this info and put a stop to this horrible industry. So sad

  3. Who are you to say that you know what's best for everyone else to follow. Like you own the moral high ground, somehow you're God and you need to tell everyone else how to live and what is best for managing predators. I don't doubt for a second that you have eaten chicken,beef,etc, and used leather goods too. Having used the aforementioned items for modern day survival (you are a human being I presume that uses/has used animals for food and everyday use in some way, and not some ethereal being that doesn't need some type of sustenance. So some people make their living from renewable resources just like the wolf/coyote/bear, etc. do in the wild, and you just don't happen to like it, so now you have to tell them that they are wrong and you are right, you must be all knowing I suppose and your judgement is the "Right way to live", the holier than thou attitude I guess. Just so arrogant! SMH

  4. I am from Norway and I can't add my voice to the campaign because I don't have a Canadian postal code. Is there any other way I can help?

  5. Canada has some of the most incredible animals in the world, found in some of the last pristine habitats, and yet atrocities like neck snares are legal. I cannot comprehend the need for fur. Powerful video, can't wait for more.

  6. i'm pretty conflicted here. subscribed to this channel but also 3 channels dedicated to trapping in northern canada. i think enough research has been done to make it apparent that some type of predator management is needed. the cull via rifle/helicopter was denounced, poison is out – so the few remaining trappers in the country are the option.

    i also feel that horrible things happen in nature and if you aren't willing to observe such things maybe stay in the city. if these people witnessed a pack of wolves attacking and eating an elk alive would they be advocating for the elk and railing against the wolf?

    just thinking out loud..

    i love wolves as much as anybody and that footage of the critters in snares is heart-breaking but also a tradition and possibly a necessary one.

    p.s. don't walk your dogs off leash in wolf/snare country.

  7. i would have killed the trapper and fed his corpse to the wolf. some people just deserve to die. too bad this little pleasure is illegal

  8. You were right John, very hard to watch! Absolutely heartbreaking in fact.
    I'm from the UK and I've only seen Wolves at wildlife sanctuaries, but they are far and away my favourite animal. Closely followed by Bears. It must take a special kind of person to be ok with doing this as a "job".
    I reminds me of the documentary "The Medicine of the Wolf". It's absolutely disgusting how these animals are persecuted for nothing more than image and fear. You would think by now that humankind would have found a way to coexist with these beautiful creatures that inhabit this planet with us, but instead humans insist on killing everything.

    Thank you for the effort that you put in with the Exposed series, I absolutely love your work and I look forward to following the coming episodes. You do so much good for wildlife and wild places, it's a shame there aren't more people like you.

  9. Everyone go to the link in the description anthen click a link that sends an automated email to canadian forces to try and stop this

  10. Pretty sad to watch a poor animal suffer so, as he struggles for hrs., only to die in the end. There has to be a better way to control excessive populations of these necessary predators.

  11. This hurt my heart. Thank you for making this video and making us aware of this inhumane practice of trapping wolves. This channel is truly doing good for humanity. Keep up the good work and I will continue to watch!

  12. Absolutely disgusting that this type of thing is allowed to go on. Thank you for shedding some light on these practices.

  13. Huh. Thought this channel was dedicated to photography. Guess I'll unsubscribe so I don't have to listen to people cry about the extermination of predators.

    To all those crying about the "cruelty" in the comments, you're all city folk I assume? Try living in rural BC and see how long you keep that train of thought. These are predators, not cuddly house pets. In my time living up here, I've personally known 2 people who were mauled and nearly killed by cougars and seen wolves invade city limits and start devouring pets and stalking kids when that whole "Self regulation" thing isn't working out.

  14. Coyote 'management' season with snares and footholds on PEI runs from Nov-Feb. Rarely covered in the news until the yearly family dog gets caught in one.

  15. Thanks for sharing, John. Even the audience from Germany, like me, is shocked. A legal hunt has to have humanity on first position. Subscribed already nearly a year ago and I love your work.
    Took action!

  16. I come from Great Britain and I watched your video in horror catching any animal in a trap or snare should be banned the trouble is there is people whose got no thought for people or animals and couldn't care less these beautiful animals have got every right to roam but the big Court in such a horrible way and filmed people should be fined banned or beaten up would be better if I saw an animal in a snare like that and a gun in my pocket I would have to shoot the animal it would be the fairest way and humane way if people are using these animals for fur or any other thing living out in the wild you should gun not a snare that's a gutless way of killing any animal in this country landowners are staring wild birds such as Hawks buzzards kites owls and these people have got no way of knowing how the land works I'm sorry if I've rented on but I think when you do these films they should be shared because I think there is too many fluffy videos about how animals live not how they died

  17. Well this was totally gut wrenching for me to watch. I wish it was “hunt by gun only” so the killing would be faster and more humane. Watching a struggling animal trying to free itself for hours from a wire snare , clearly shows it isn’t the way. I’m not opposed to hunting at all, just the way the killing is done. Thanks for this video John.

  18. Thank you for sharing. This is revolting. I cannot believe people can be so cruel to animals. I wish I could send a letter through your site but I'm an American. Is there a way for us to support the cause?

  19. Those who show no respect in wolves existence or any other wildlife that nature created shouldn't be honored with any respect but dishonored for taking a life that has no threat to our existence but ourselves, they will never understand their purpose for being alive and how important their lives matter to our ecosystem without them we are nothing and they will only know what they need to make a living off of. But you and I we will make this come to end and make a change where our native animals will live on their life's in peace with no human interference. We will only learn from our mistakes. When that day comes they will regret their decisions of making our companions into materials to satisfy their fashion needs. I may not be able to do as much I want to at the moment but that doesn't mean I won't do what ever I can in my power to defend our animals and make a massive change in our world. 'My purpose isn't complete until I make this happen.'

  20. This video really made me think hard. read at your own risk, much longer than i originally anticipated.
    I partially both agree and disagree. I definitely think the point you suggested about snares not being quick enough is certainly valid, faster deaths are certainly more humane and snares arent doing the job as well as they should. but where i disagree is the plea for society to not kill for the sake of fashion. I just think its unrealistic to expect as much as id like for that to happen. trapping is another means of income for some of these people. If there was no demand for their work, thats just one less way of making money in places where jobs might be scarce.
    Also the point of the video has me a bit confused. Do you want more humane traps or do you want demand for trapping to stop in general? Because I just dont see anyone being happy if i made a trap that instantly beheaded animals, as "humane" as that may be. I think there are several factors go into considering what is considered a good trap and the value of a snare is just so high that people will overlook how humane it may be. To some people, it doesnt matter. and on a grand scale, its hard to disagree. Of course pain should be avoided in all aspects of life but if the goal is inevitable mass death, pain wont matter if youre gonna be dead either way. It's absolutely horrible but some people are just willing to accept that. the appeal to humanity comes from empathy from us not wanting a painful death but we arent even promised that same courtesy. And if we take that even further, why should any animal die since humans dont want to die? Even in human terms, youre lucky if you have a painless death. to these people, theyd still eat fruit even if fruits started talking and they feel exactly the same way about profiting off of pain. another acceptable loss as long as people pay and prey is plentiful.
    In a way, I appreciate you posting this video because of the snare issue. but if anything you kind of just validated in my mind that this can never go away, even if snares are done for. do you know what a snare is? it can be as simple as a looped wire. Even if they become commercially illegal, its so cheap to make and inevitable that people wont care. To be fair, no trap is perfect if we are talking about subjecting fear and panic, no matter how painless or how frequently a trapper comes and checks. if the problem is a lack of respect, fine. but lets not pretend its respectful to trap any other way either.

    My suggestion to this hiking couple, there is likely nothing you can do about this trap line if it's legal. Find a new spot to hike. Maybe get one of those crazy dog training suits and some bolt cutters if youre feeling bold about releasing wolves from traps but prepare for potential legal consequences if caught as it may be considered destruction of property. Fortunately for you, the same reason why snares are such a good value is why you wont have such bad legal consequences, since all you would be doing is literally cutting a wire and you may just have to cover potential loss of the trap and maybe the full cost of the pelt itself, which to me seems well worth it. And while i cant encourage you breaking the law, I cant blame you if you wanted to cough cough

    As both a photographer and an occasional hunter (My conviction is only using a naked recurve bow), I will always have respect for animals whether they are predators or prey species enough to never exchange the experience for money. But there are definitely less fortunate people than me who may depend on it who may not be able to afford to be as considerate. but to be fair, there are definitely people who can afford to be considerate and just arent. Its a huge undertaking to convince people who think they know better lol take it from me. Feeling bad for animals isnt always enough. And as long as its legal, its just that. Penalties for breaking these laws are pretty lax as well. No foreseeable long term solution without a general attitude change among all participating citizens.

  21. Shameful Canada !! Shame in the civilized Canada.

    The facade of economic prosperity has an impact on such politics !
    Who can be considered "civilized" with such practical ??
    Shameful Canada & Canadians !!

  22. Thank you for sharing, although it was extremely hard to watch. I live in the USA but everywhere we need change. Hopefully this video will spark more people to change, and demand change.

  23. You people are so narrow minded for real… it's disgusting..
    hunters and trappers give these animals the most quickest and humane death they could possibly get… think about it… one quick shot to head no pain…. snare placed right and they fall asleep…. now what other ways would they die? Freeze to death, eaten alive, drowned…. say they break a leg…. or hit by car….. not to mention if we didnt practice MANAGMENT alot of animals wouldnt be here… Wolves went from being proctected to have a five tag limit…. you people really know nothing about managment …. so frustrating and foolish

  24. As a hobbyist photographer this is absolutely horrible to watch. I live in an area where the biggest predator is a red fox, and is even rarely seen. My dream is to see a wolf in the wild in my lifetime. I can not understand how people can do this, and in such a cruel way. Lately the question is not "when will i get to see one" but "will there be any wild wolves left".
    Thanks for exposing thede horrible practises, John!
    Signed and making sure my family signs too.

  25. This is a difficult, but important video to watch. I appreciate the efforts of John and his dedication to wildlife conservation.

  26. This video is really touching. I'm going to share it and spread the word, hopefully that's okay with you. Really love what you're doing and the difference you're trying to make. I hope I can join you on your journey one day. Would love to pay you and come along on one of your journey's. Please let me know if you do have this kind of option or you do these kinds of trips/events.

  27. I'm sorry I can't even watch. I wouldn't be able to get it out of my head. Heartbreaking. Why do people have to kill. I do not understand humans they can be evil. This brings me to tears. I adore wolves.

  28. This is SO SAD😔😢. It really makes me sad to see what money does to us as humans!! It breaks my heart to see how we are slowly but surely destroying everything on this beautiful planet. In the not too distant future, all that will be left to trap and kill, will be ourselves 😔. You guys are doing a tremendous job by getting this out there, and bringing it to the worlds attention, good on you and thank you for being such caring and passionate people 👍

  29. Humans are disgusting, instead of enjoying our beautiful landscapes and wildlife, we kill it for “fashion”. Thank you for creating content like this!!!!

  30. its more then the fur industry that drives this look at pa the hunts and bounty's placed on coyote's because they effect the deer population . If no one bought furs they would increase hunts thankyou for the video very sad

  31. John your doing the right thing here, sharing this video and making others aware of this horrible situation! This was heart wrenching to watch and I don’t understand how this is even legal! Actually really pisses me off. I love seeing and hearing wolves while I’m hiking or camping. This kind of trapping needs to stop immediately. $40???? With no limits??? Give me a break, that’s bullshit. Anyway I better cut this short, too furious about this situation. Keep up the great work John!

  32. I love all your episodes, even though this one is a difficult but necessary topic. Hey, do you mind sharing the song/artist used during the opening part of this video?

  33. I can’t believe, I feel sick I thought snares were banned. Wow our species is headed no where. We devolved not evolved.

  34. Well done john
    Its clear that many comments were posted by u educated idiots that probably have clue how to hunt or trap
    Us real hunters and trappers do not operate like these cowards

  35. Who can we write, email and call to voice our disgust? Its distrubing knowing that people do this to wildlife. Its equally disturbing that people wear fur since there has been so much education on the cruelty behind the fur. Its heartbreaking watching these animals go through such a horrific death.

  36. "The fashion industry is the driving force behind trapping, but advocates, including government official also argue that it is a wildlife management tool"
    Let me start by agreeing with you that neck snares are certainly a horrific tool to trap or "harvest" an animal. I don't think anyone would dispute that. Certainly, it is a great place to start if you are looking for some bait for clicks.
    As per the statement above, I am picking up on your scepticism towards trapping being a legitimate means of wildlife management. We(be it First Nation or early settlers), have always had our place in the circle of life as it comes to coexisting on the land. Wolves are a beautiful animal, and much like yourself, they are my favourite to photograph. They are however, savage in nature. They are born to feed, and when prey food becomes scarce, they will consume their own pups. I've personally witnessed a pack of wolves rip a moose calf to shreds as it was still breathing, kicking, and screaming. It was a pretty traumatic visual, but understandably, the way it goes in the wild. Luckily for some other moose calves, humans have been the check that have kept the pressure the wolves put on the ungulates in balance since time immemorial(even long before much of our wilderness had become fragmented through industry). In my opinion, spreading a message of anti-predator management is dangerous, as the impacts could spell bad news for animals that are even more vulnerable than wolves, and species recovery(as we are finding) is a dismal road.

  37. Hi, John 👍🏻👍🏻 I’m so upset and hurt that people would use such inhumane traps to capture and kill wild animals just for their fur, all wildlife should be left alone to be able to live in the Wilderness to be Free ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ I am a deer hunter I hunt for food, not to mane or use traps to make the animal suffer such a cruel death. I would love to have those people who set out those snare traps to be caught in one of their own traps but with barbed wire around it and just let them suffer in the woods crying out and suffer a cruel death at their own demise ( Just Saying ) that’s how mad I am at those people who use traps so they can make money off of an animals fur. I think the laws for trapping need to be changed, the Canadian government and wildlife officials should step in and really research their trapping laws of cruel and inhumane traps. John thank you for sharing I hope something is done about this because wildlife should remain to be Free in the Wilderness so people can enjoy a nice hike in the woods and to be able to enjoy watching and photographing Wildlife. I look forward to seeing more of your outdoor adventures, enjoy and have a Great week !!! Danny

  38. A disgusting way to kill anything. Some "management" may be needed, but not this way and not shooting them from airplanes as they used to do in Alaska and Canada. I visit Canada frequently (from the United States) and, as a nature photographer, I find wolves one of the best wildlife to observe, and finding them is rare. Some people find inhumane killing too easy. Will we never "grow up?" Thanks for your advocacy, John. You do great work!

  39. i hate humans who do this and then smile with proud of this carnage >:( i will snare these ppl i swear …. i bet these 27 dislikes are these unecessary fashionists xD

  40. I COULD'NT EVEN WATCH 10 2NDS OF IT !!! THIS IS AS CRUEL AND INHUMANE AS IT GETS !!!!!!!!!!!! ALL TRAPPING OF ANY KIND DONE TO WOLVES AND ALL WILDLIFE NEEDS 2 [email protected] IMMEDIATELY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  41. I don’t understand why is it important to wear pure fur? It’s simply not, there are many types of artificial fur that look and feel exactly the same as real fur, my problem with this video isn’t only about killing wolves and animals in a cruel way but the problem is killing them in the first place, that really hurts me and makes me wanna go search for these traps and unleash any animal like in any way you can use something to make the wolf chill and not attack you

  42. I was given a winter coat with a removable fur lined hood pice (zipper) brand name Beaver Canoe,I just assumed it was fake fur maybe it isn’t

    Beaver Canoe

  43. The fact that Canada allows this practice to go on.. shame on the Government. These people are no different from the terrorists who strike against human beings. Are wild animals inferior to humans ? they have the right to roam this earth as much as we do. Shame on the authorities who let this go on.

  44. Thanks John for everything you do, I genuinely appreciate it. I knew what happened but still watched, as it's important. I've taken the action to try and help and also shared your video on Facebook. You're completely right. I really disagree with hunting in general. If the ecosystem was left to work as it should we wouldn't even need to consider using any kind of trapping. I know your video is about the snares, which are just awful. So, thanks for focus on this. It's small steps but hoping something happens to change this archaic and out of date system.

    I must admit that if I see any, I would be tempted to take them down. The biggest thing that the public can do is stop buying this crap though then they wouldn't hunt. Easy, but unfortunately you still see these fashion items on a daily basis.

    The whole animal management argument for hunting wolves, and anything in that matter, is so fuckin flawed, it's now beyond boring hearing about it. Quoting references to first nations methods is also bollocks too. Just because something worked and was ethical 10000 years ago doesn't mean we should still do it. It just makes me sad and angry at the same time. We can easily live without meat, so, so easily.

    We need to change our ways of the way we abuse nature. Through things like deforestation, treating everything as an infinite resource, thinking humans have the right to everything on the planet etc etc. It's just time we put nature first for once. The human race has had it's fun, it is time to stop fucking around now.

    Sorry for the long comment. This topic just gets me going.

    It's 2019, let's grow up eh!

  45. To some it’s our heritage it’s how we have been raised just like no one should have the right to judge someone for being apart of the LGBTQ community you have no right pointing figures at how we have lived here for hundreds of years

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